And so easy to correct. Glocks are designed with internal safety features to prevent accidental discharge. Obviously carrying concealed greatly reduces the odds of your gun being taken, but that doesnt mean that precautions arent in order. My Taurus G2C is DAO, restrike, and no mag safety. Of course, I do concede you point, it just that it brought Monty Python to mind and I improvised from there. Do you supposes THIS guy knows the six letter word for a firearms dangerous end? I was shown( Thank You RES), yank that sucker out, moveaim, fire. The Glock 26 Gen 4 weighs approximately 25 ounces with a loaded magazine. In the absence of further information, which is never forthcoming, the logical conclusion is: They dont want to fix it. If youre going to do something like defend yourself with a firearm. The claim is that because Glocks have no safety and a super light trigger, they accidentally shoot people. A un-chambered carry gun is useless. Usually I just get to see Colt SAAs with 16 chamber cylinders. I once owned 12 of them. Its common for someone to quickly raise a gun and try to shoot, just to realize the safety was in the on position keeping it from working. Sometimes I ask a question. Time waits for no man, and neither do bad guys. They have defense of the State, of their comrades, or of other citizens.. The chamber under the hammer of any carried revolver is *irrelevant* for the first shot, since cocking the hammer of an SA or pulling the trigger on a DA advances the next chamber to the firing position. This is not remotely comparable to carrying a semiauto with an empty chamber, where the slide must be racked to make the gun ready to fire. Whats the big deal? An unchambered gun is a dangerous, useless-to-you half measure. Sound off in the comments. Farago sells out, the site gets taken over by snowflakes who spend every minute lining up sponsored content, and the content section gets taken over by trolls and vlads. Cocked and locked . When the term "loaded" means a round in the chamber and you need to carry, either open carry or concealed, with an unloaded gun, training to be faster with your draw will be very important. There are no Glock negligent discharges *without* the word *negligent* in the incident description. they took it so far, they had Glock make a special model Glock for them with a slightly stouter trigger spring. Weve beaten this dead horse enough. I for one dont want to take the chance of fumbling around with a gun trying to rack the gun under pressure. Third, the reason that actual experts (I would say I am knowledgeable to a point, but an expert I am not) recommend NOT carrying in Condition Three is for the reason that it takes a lot of training and repetition to get truly proficient and most people with a lot of training and proficiency dont carry their pistol unloaded. I carried it un-chambered for a few weeks till I was comfortable. The most obvious one is we have an external safety. So anybody can mess with anybody here at any time, by pretending to be somebody else. I may not have the time to chamber a round if a BG is close enough. Not the first time I have seen you feed the gun grabbers agenda either. IMO, anyway. (I dont think any of us are going to try to pocket carry a 1911 or a Glock 17.). Probably applies to a few other westerns as well though. Empty chamber carry is dumb. Mr Hoober, If you werent too busy arrogantly doubling down, you might consider trying it some time instead of pretending you know everything but I suppose you are probably more interested in getting audience engagement than giving good advice. It was called Fractured Fairy Tales. Normally, empty chamber carry adds an average of maybe 2/10ths of a second. Carried chambered until the kids came. Thats intentional. However, that also creates issues. An insignificant cretin crying for attention in a world that has left him far, far behind. It has a safety, but I dont really care about that. And thats only firearms. It has been many years since I saw that movie. 3.Is it Safed to Carry a Glock With one in the Chamber - Gun Tradition. Same here. As for kids, had 3 daughters, all knew all weapons were loaded, all were shooting bb guns by 5, learned safety and marksmanship, and by ten, the oldest could out shoot me with the Smith 9mm semi, steel. Just not for me. Glock 23 Handgun. silly? What youre proposing is more, Are glocks, or other strikers without safeties, truly safe?. His response could be ro shoot you with your gun. We keep our mouths shut, myob, and avoid praising glocks. All are coded alike, but each has a different weapon in condition 1 ready to go. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'guntradition_com-leader-1','ezslot_8',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-1-0');I do know one engineer who figured out that if it was dropped from 221 feet and it lands on the right angle squarely on its barrel, it could possibly go off, but the bullet would immediately strike the ground and not do much after that. Safe wise, I like the Homak #584 4 digit/code safe. So the trigger pull is utterly irrelevant *if* you are paying attention to your firearm which you should be doing, again, with *any* firearm. Dry fire and have a friend rush you with a fake knife. I felt a few of the points that were raised had enough merit to discuss further. Many people have said, "A Glock doesn't have a safety." In this video, Dustin Winegar demonstrates that the Glock pistol design is actually one of the safest. Many revolvers also changed; whereas the firing pin was once integrated with the hammer . I thought it was just the cops and regulars of the IDF. What I meant was: As all who have examined a REGULAR single action revolver, like a Colt SAA or the old three screw Rugers before the transfer bar, would know. No external safey, DA trigger that goes bang when you pull it.. Especially in a stressful situation. As if every act of negligence is a deliberate act. She had the edge, rock steady hands of a brain surgeon. But now I get 18! I am sure you will tell us that since you are a stable genius it will never happen to you. There are also the safety concerns . and yes i train and rehearse that A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Ok, maybe youre taking off your holster and you drop the whole dang thing on the floor. If you have your Glock properly holstered it cant go off, Those are what ifs what if you slip in the shower get hit in the crosswalk get rundown by a terrorist in a f150 train be vigilant and stay away from the end that has 6 letters. But thats good. So were really talking only about safe carry and capacity, as the first shot fired will be from the NEXT chamber. Yes - I always carry with a round chambered. It's a small handgun that is easy to carry, chambered for a very powerful cartridge, and priced so a working man can easily afford it. You just have to scroll down to it. When the time comes that you actually need your carry weapon things are going to happen really fast. While the bad guy is picking up the decoy gun and trying to shoot you with it, you draw your real piece with a round loaded. You can get a lockbox for $50 or less from Amazon or from most hardware stores. Some might even have second strike capability, which is the real holy grail. Introduced in 2012, the Shield is thinner and lighter than the M&P Compact and features an improved trigger. Unchambered carry is a bad idea because: When I was a lot younger, I was riding horses with some friends. Theoretically, the slide safety could be accidentally disengaged in your holster rendering a cocked and locked 1911 significantly more susceptible to a ND when drawn given the user didnt know the safety was disengaged. Its decocker is better than a thumb safety. But that would be true for almost ANY gun that didnt have a manual safety engaged. And unlike Mad, I DO make mistakes. Until I do, its one in the chamber with safety engaged and hammer down on a DA/SA pistol. I have no problem carrying chambered but around the house or at the park I do not. Glocks are completely safe handguns even though they dont have external safety. Even though everyone who has ever used and examined a SA revolver can easily see that the firing pin is ALWAYS in contact with the primer when the hammer is down, if the chamber under it has a round in it?, And, again, absolutism that is far too easy to refute. I carry with one in the chamber but you choose not to. Many striker/plastic pistols, like the S&W Sygma, have actual DA triggers, that do not use glocks UN safe-action trigger scheme. Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered. What is the I.33 for humidor and candle or Grndtliche Beschreibung der Kunst des Fechtens for bananas?;-). Who honestly gives a F*ck what someone else chooses to do. (Some chance remains, of course, given extraordinary circumstances that can be described but have statistically no chance of happening.). Im a mommy-frelling ballerina with a pickem up truck towing. Your local police do exactly that. Next, there was some discussion about GLOCKs. Yes. What Glock Is Most Used By Law Enforcement; Who Makes The Glock 22 It is also the choice of many Canadian cops services. Come on, Gov, you know better than that. A little background: When Israel was founded, "drop safe" firearms were not as common as today and the fledgling state had a mixed bag . If the trigger safety is not depressed, the trigger will not move rearwards and allow the pistol to fire. Just go to there web site, or go to your gun store for more information. I wouldnt have or carry any with a non hot pipe, but thats just me. You carry your way and Ill carry mine. Then you have the big, scary, single-action magnums by IWI (the BFR) Freedom Arms and custom guns from Jeff Linebaugh. I would like to carry at the ready, but doing so really gives me the heebie-jeebies. And my Glock 17. You'll want to train yourself one way or the other. This has nothing to do with car=privilege firearm=right. However, with an unchambered semi-auto, that may be a more credible concern. I usually carry chambered with a revolver or my .25 but the trigger on my new Glock 19 is so easy I am not yet comfortable carrying chambered because there is no manual safety. Its like arguing Android is better than iOS. Carrying a Glock 26 or 27 in "conditon 1" (chambered) is comparable to carrying a loaded S&W Jframe revolver. I turn it into the five gun question instead. We can put a bullet thru the eye of a bunny sitting still but its hard to get a head shot when its running, us being the bunny. . To chamber or not to chamber? Every day. PS: There was a 12 yo kid recently that subdued an attacker with a common socket wrench after Dad missed 39 times with a pistol. As the saying goes, you do you. It's a mental block you will have to outgrow. MOLON LABE. OH NO! If the pin has enough mass, it will fire the round, chambered or not, hammer blocked or not, trigger pulled or not, out-of-battery safeties, etc. You can conceal the Glock 43 comfortably and discretely in a Galco leather holster like the . When all else fails eat a mucho big bowl of butter beans and a hand full of BBs that should put a whole new meaning to Kiss my a$$. I ran a corner thru the trigger and around the other side up the grip. See the old Remingtons. If anybody could advise me, I'd be grateful. . The answer is "yes." Milliseconds count. like i said Just that for most every use, there are other choices that are better. The Glock handgun is the favored pistol of law enforcement agencies worldwide. Glockster20. There is no way to put a round in the chamber without leaving the striker cocked, and there is no safety. I find the whole thing absurd and literally every firearm expert agrees with me. and so as to keep continuity in their mindset they keep that same gun on the headboard at night with no round in the chamber so that there wont be any confusion But carry the way you feel comfortable. What you are overlooking is the odds. In a SA revolver, the next round is instantly available anyway, whether fully loaded or one short, quicker out of the leather for the first, second, and third shot than any other existing action type. I have for almost 40 years and have it properly holstered. Glock 22 Gen 3 (Photo: Gunprime) The full-size Glock 22 was made to fill the gap between .45 and 9mm. A GLOCK does not have an external manual safety. Theres a problem with absolutism: youre proven wrong too easily. The NRA store version is about $50+ for the small size. The Glock handgun is the preferred handgun of police worldwide. These arent exactly the most concealable guns out there. sanctimonious what iffers Theres simply no point in carrying an unloaded gun. Well, its nice to know Im negligible. Am I being silly? Usually I just get to see Colt SAAs with 16 chamber cylinders. You know, due to the stress of OH MY GOD SOMEONES BREAKING INTO THE HOUSE AND HES GOT A GUN! If you cant respect the power and danger of an automobile why would you think you could be trusted with a firearm at all let alone one without a safety? Agreement. When you thumb the hammer back for the first shot, it only rotates 1/12th or the way around instead of 1/6th. Width: 1.18. Even though everyone who has ever used and examined a SA revolver can easily see that the firing pin is ALWAYS in contact with the primer when the hammer is down, if the chamber under it has a round in it? 21 foot rule gets those people every time. Training happens every time we do something, no matter if its shooting, driving, or eating. Does the Glock fire then? And yes, I have done trigger work on 2 of my 3 Glocks. I assume it had something to do with its mechanics. They didnt know. Many competition shooters boast about having it done to their race gun. KAER adhere to the business philosophy of customer first, service first, quality first, and provide our customers with high-quality products and perfect service.. We are a professional manufacturer dedicated to the production of gun safes, safe box, pistol safe and other security products.