On Mothers Day. I don't think it bodes well. The first speaker was a single father, then the bishop spoke, then the stake president spoke. Gag. 34 Ideas for LDS Sacrament Meeting Talks When People Don't Apologize: Forgiving and finding reconciliation with God Would borrow from Forgiveness + Tribulation, a talk I gave fall 2019. Home & Family. It was perhaps the best talk I gave as a bishop. don't get me wrong, I'm not bragging. Im against handing out plants on Mothers Day. I am actually traveling with my mother and other members of the family this weekend and showed her this in church to get a laugh. *As I type this, I know for a fact that someone out there is going to respond that their ward gives men plants for Fathers Day every year. My preference is for a talk focusing on women of the scriptures. Theres got to be a way to show a little appreciation and recognize their importance and significance without it being guilt-inducing. Sabbath Day Scriptures Scripture References Doctrine and Covenants 59:9-12 Scripture Study Resources Topical Guide, "Assembly for Worship" My mom still to this day says it was the best Mothers Day talk ever. I know I dont have any say on when the thread closes, but it would be interesting to hear feedback from how each persons respective wards handled MD, and how the people assigned to talk felt their messages were delivered and/or received. Why can't we let women celebrate it how they want at home and focus on Christ at church? By The rest of us mortals should stick with real.. If you personally need one, thats fine, but not everyone needs a model for something that is experienced differently by everyone. Aiming for Heaven is again looking to the sinless for examples, not to an episode of Leave it to Beaver. If I would obtain the blessing, And yeah, audience is important. Mark, very good advice IMO. Excuse everyone after Sacrament meeting to spend the time with their mothers. It was the first Mothers Day since she died. could have had us all come to earth as adults, but instead we came as infants needing 24 hour care to survive; there must be something we need to learn from being dependent on parents, and 4) share some motherhood quotes. Beware the philosophies of Hallmark, mingled with scripture. We like to celebrate mothers in the Church and we like to ignore fatherhood. I remember something I was told many years ago by a young man in Provo, UT. Then I served in a Branch with 90% women who had absent husbands and who also grew up with absent fathers. Evry idle whisper stilling . Ugh. The water is a reminder that the Savior shed His blood in intense spiritual suffering and anguish, beginning in the Garden of Gethsemane and concluding on the cross. Ere the sun goes down, I plan to skip church on Mothers Day morning to visit my mother in the home and I will receive my Masters Degree that afternoon! I just spent two hours reading all the comments, viewing the video mentioned in #90, and taking notes. But I love my mother, and I miss her, so Im hopeful that the experience will be a good one. Disciples of Christ know what they want and there is not need to celebrate Christmas in front of others that are not faithful. It would be much easier for me to hear mothers day talks if they were real instead of ideal, though Id prefer a good sermon on Christ, instead. 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No talk is necessary, but a simple acknowledgement of our love for all the women in our lives is nice. . Never heard it, but I would love somethingalong the lines ofwhat we can learn from Christ and his time with women. All Yet, we have a tendency to go to extremes, particularly culturally, forgetting that we are worshiping God, and that we are not God nor expected to be God in this, our mortal state. This blog post is the result of my musing. Sacrament meetings include music, talks, testimonies and prayers. Talk topics could be: - examples in the scriptures (Eve, Ruth, Naomi, Esther, Sarah, Mary, Sariah, etc), - early Saints (Lucy Mack, Emma, Eliza R Snow, Aurelia Rogers, etc), - influence of (teachers, nurses, aunts, grandmas, etc). Can they not celebrate their own mothers? Cannot load blog information at this time. If my kids are with me on MD I go, but FD is just too painful. There are a number of other conference talks on the subject (righteous traditions, family traditions, etc.). Some of the stories were simple acts of kindness and some were extraordinary examples of love and sacrifice. Gospel Q&A: My Children Have Left the Church & I Worry for Their Souls. When we value families so strongly we should celebrate the roles of motherhood and fatherhood. Beware the philosophies of Hallmark, mingled with scripture. lol. I would say that since Christ is supposed to be the express image of his Father that we do know quite a bit about the Father. Only for the second time he also included a segment about how if his wife was a better homemaker maybe his kids wouldnt have such screwed up lives. I have had a lot of thoughts about Father's Day because my father passed away on May 23 about a month ago. I believe he has mellowed and gained wisdom over the years and was a part of a later bishopric. We should not celebrate anything unless it is universally acknowledged around the world. There have been one or two General Conference talks in the last couple of years that briefly addressed that situation. Ive endured (and thats the right word) too many Mothers Days that were awful, meaningless, and unrealistic. In this talk, Elder Holland focuses on three different experiences that reflect the majestic influence of mothers. The first is a cautionary tale, where a friend who was drifting away from the Church expressed he could not stand the thought of facing his deceased mother. Put me in the column of those who think Sacrament Meeting should be about Christ. But in Argentina, where Mothers Day is in October, they also tended to recognize International Womens Day (March 8) even in church (in addition to a wide variety of other holidays Childrens Day, Grandparents Day, etc.). Or any talk. My oldest, the musical and noisy one, composed parodies of many favorite primary songs about a decade ago when she was under the tyranny of those zealous but misguided young mothers. I am glad you had a good father, but honestly, that attitude is what keeps me away. Too much idealism masks reality and can quickly become propaganda and lies. Not within an hour of reading this post did I get a call from a member of our bishopric asking me to speak on Sunday. Ziff, thank you. Submitting to the will of the Father, He suffered more than we can comprehend: Blood [came] from every pore, so great [was] his anguish for the wickedness and the abominations of his people (Mosiah 3:7). His topic? I am on the Speakers Bureau for the Rape Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) and we would welcome the donations too. So I will be going to church on Sunday, even though I never go to church, so I can remember my mother, who was never a Mormon. After the explanation, both seemed excited and accepted the challenge willingly. This reflects a very different image than the one we portray to the world about our values and what we say means the most to us. Any Advice? I was dreading it, but I was rescued by my sister coming to town for the next 3 days yayyyy. American LDS women who attended Sacrament Meeting were told that they have a lot of innate qualities, such as being righteous, spiritual, pure, or nurturing. I dont remember all 18 things, but two of them stuck with me, even 15 years later. How can a father raise a happy, well-adjusted daughter in todays increasingly toxic world? Identifying ideals is somehow so treacherous for the psyches of women that that must never be mentioned? Mark, This post was positively Uchtdorfian! I just pray that the spirit can convey the message that seems so exciting in my heart. At one point they cut down a tree and paraded it into town to symbolize the mother of the Gods (Asherah, anyone?). Weve had sermons based on bumper stickers, Willy Wonka, the Grinch, and quite possibly Chicken Soup for the Soul, etc. President Hinckley addressed all the women of the Church and thanked them for all the work they do in their families, congregations, and communities. And, invariably, as soon as I would send one on his way, Im not a mother, thank you, another would pop up at my elbow, dutifully, kindly twisting the knife. (If you want to see an example, search mormon tax exemption on Twitter.) That wouldn't let her do such and suchall things in the end that weren't good for her daughter to do, one way of looking at it. Speechless. To be fair, diabetics can eat chocolate. Well we could have it like the Sacrament Meetings for Father's Day and have it be your usual every Sunday meeting and not even talk about women or mothers. Print out the short questionnaires included in the printable and distribute them to the mothers in your ward a few weeks before Mother's Day. Forgive me for not understanding the blessing part of it. I just read that talk again; and I see nothing wrong with it. Because I know the real story so it is distracting from the fake one that they are giving. But guess what?! I dont mean to be rude, but I know I will have anxiety over killing it and then I *will* kill it and then I will have to look at its dead body. Those were the kinds of talks I gave, and thats what I would rather listen to. So no one is left out. Latter-day Saint pianist Monica Scott has arranged a touching Mother's Day medley in honor of Stephanie Pope, a mother of five who recently passed away . You might drift over to what has been considered the rebuttal of Mothers Who Know given at the next conference session by Elder Ballard. Excellent suggestions, Mark. Those who are not disciples of Christ or do not have faith will find it painful to see the faith of others; thus no one should celebrate Christmas openly. (just kidding). Gospel Q&A: Can Satan Hear Our Prayers? He emphasized there is no one perfect way to be a mother and that every situation is different. She told us that as a girl, she would sit in her room crying, with big welts on the back of her hands, but now that she was grown up, she understood why her mother did it, and she was grateful, by golly. What is the trigger to close the thread? Since my husband gets to give Especially for those women that aren't mothersbut, a big but, these women are mothers to villages, pets, and extended family all the time! https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2014/04/wanted-hands-and-hearts-to-hasten-the-work?lang=eng. There there is the secular appeal - it causes a pain to those who are not mothers. It was a nice meeting. I went to Sac. It hits pretty close because Im one of those lucky people who get to speak on Mothers Day this year. In this case it will likely be mothers, and the Primary kids will sing, too. And he completely meant it too. He discussed the tendency of many women to feel like failures and shared ways to overcome it. Elder Ballard lists three ways mothers can do that; first, is realizing joy comes in moments, second is to not overschedule children, and third, to find time to cultivate talents and interests. You can still give the women the day off. Focus on womanhood and examples of strong women, not on a perfect homemaker mother. When I was bishop, my bishopric would always serve pie during the third hour and Id invite my mom to attend. Im thankful for ideals even when I dont measure up not even often let alone all the time. Just pass out the chocolates and let all the women go to a park where buckets of KFC, potato salad and slaw are in abundance and/or veggie pizza and cheesecake. Through the shedding of His blood, Jesus Christ saved all people from what the scriptures call the original guilt of Adams transgression (Moses 6:54). THAT is what non-denominational Christian churches do :). More importantly, which meeting do you thinkwould be more likely to provide meaningful support? Support Epic Family Fun! Now, I detest it. After living with me for almost 17 years, hed better get it right! I think its terribly sad that growing up Mormon, I never heard anyone make any serious attempt to talk about Heavenly Mother on Mothers Day. Thank you to everyone! I do think a lot of Mormon women enjoy talks that validate their efforts at motherhood, and I think some of these talks get interpreted as angel mother talks when theyre really not. They really did. What are we trying to create? Along with activities and programs during the week, Latter-day Saints gather on Sundays for an approximately hour-long "sacrament" meeting, where men, women and younger members offer prayers and give sermons, sing hymns and partake of the sacrament (similar to receiving communion). Pertaining to gifts: #53 Im against handing out plants on Mothers Day. I wish that EVERY ward had a FD talk on what unrighteousness dominion is, and why it should be the job of every priesthood holder and father to raise sons who understand it and daughters who wont stand for it. They can eat whatever they want, in fact. It was the service ofthe sisters that made the talk memorable. Gospel Q&A: How Can I Find and Foster Celestial Love? I think this is one of the most confusing topics for men in the church. If it is unique to us, I wonder why we have a corner on the Mothers Day anxiety market. But I still think the Dove bars our bishop chooses rock the holiday. Pres Hinckley and apparently Mark has it right. Topical Guide, Assembly for Worship, Index to the Triple Combination, Assemble, Meetings in the Church, Handbook 2, 18, Speaking in Sacrament Meeting? youth.ChurchofJesusChrist.org, Is Sacrament Meeting a Top-of-the-Mountain Experience for You? 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What does that say about us as a people? To find a ward near you, try the Meetinghouse Locator, which will also provide sacrament meeting times, driving directions, and contact information. Ive been jinxed. I loved it! The only thing I might try if I were in charge would be to put out pink, white, red carnations and safety pins and invite everyone in the ward to wear a carnation to honor their mother pink/red if shes living, white if shes passed away. She cares about your eternal safety and happiness. But since we have instituted Mothers Day as the day my family ditches church and meets my parents at Shoshone Falls for a picnic, I look forward to it every year. Some years it gets a nod, other years the talks are unrelated. We are an outlandishly weird, mixed up bunch of folk. I was supposed to talk two weeks ago on the purpose of the Sacrament but ended up in surgery instead, and upon returning to church last Sunday was asked to reschedule. For the third verse, I composed a counterpoint for the choir to sing while the kids sang the melody. I dont think it would occur to anyone to give a man a plant for Fathers Day *, but its very common to give women plants for Mothers Day. I do think it is easy to understand my point and I appreciate it when others understand my position. Personally, I like cookies. Latter Day Arrangements is a sheet music resource for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and other Christians. Bear in mind thatmost of women in the congregation havelives that havent turned out the way they expected. Said she, If you havent convinced your mother that you love her the other 364 days of the year, nothing you say on Mothers Day is worth a damn.. I don't understand it, but it is your logic. Can anyone say overdone? Not all women can become real mothers. I have to say that I was almost offended that there would be an assumption that FD would be a piece of cake. I wonder if a member of our bishopric reads this blog? The greatest Mormon blog in the universe. Evry cry of pity heeding, Tracy M posted an amazing video that deals with the general concept of this post in a really insightful way. Ere the sun goes down: Its a complete set-up for failure. Our old ward in NY would take the funds normally used to purchase flowers, chocolate, etc. Think about your message and how it will sound to the entire spectrum of your sisters in the ward. I love this. Why shouldn't women be those who teach about the glory of god that is woman? . Nuts. I get fed up listening every year to only men saying how wonderful their wives and mothers are. In Bishopric meeting this year, I quoted your little sister regarding plants. Alece, Daughters of God How about we don't celebrate either at church, but celebrate it in our homes with our mothers and fathers? They do not need to be perfect in order to partake of the sacrament, but they should have a spirit of humility and repentance in their hearts. ), Miriam his sister who obeyed her mother and stayed with him and suggested her mother be his nursemaid, and the daughter of Pharoah, who raised him. Sometime in the mid-1990s, I went to the ward library after sacrament meeting to obtain materials for teaching a lesson. Motherhood is more than bearing children, though it is certainly that. I Know I would like Mothers Day more if they changed the official hymn of the day from Love at Home to this one (to be sung from the perspective of the mother): 1. What do you think when you see a used car lot with a sign like this: Honest Abes Used Cars! Lewis moments ago which speaks directly to those thoughts: Now they never had fought, yet they did not fear death; and they did think more upon the liberty of their fathers than they did upon their . And dont even get me started on the Are We Not All Mothers tripe. Ill be hiding in the clerks office. Because children can be wayward we should not celebrate parenthood.
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